Thursday, September 10, 2009

ILLEGALS GET FREE HEALTH INSURANCE - Don't You Wish That Were All???

THIS OPINION CLAIMS THERE ARE 11.9 MILLION ILLEGALS. MOST SOURCES INDICATE THE NUMBER CLOSER TO 38 MILLION. CA ALONE HAS 15 MILLION.
NOW DO THE MATH AND YOU WILL START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MEXICAN WELFARE STATE FOR “CHEAP” LABOR REALLY COSTS!
THERE IS A REASON WHY MOST OF THE FORTUNE 500 ARE LA RAZA DONORS, AND WHY ALL DEMS ARE LA RAZA ENDORSED AND HISPANDERING NIGHT AND DAY FOR THE ILLEGALS’ ILLEGAL VOTES.
IT’S NOT NEW. THEY’VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE THE AMNESTY OF 1986!

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The Five Biggest Lies in the Health Care Debate (more bullshit debunked)

Illegal immigrants will get free health insurance.
The House bill doesn't give anyone free health care (though under a 1986 law illegals who can't pay do get free emergency care now, courtesy of all us premium paying customers or of hospitals that have to eat the cost). Will they be eligible for subsidies to buy health insurance? The House bill says that "individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States" will not be allowed to receive subsidies.

The claim that taxpayers will wind up subsidizing health insurance for illegal immigrants has its origins in the defeat of an amendment, offered in July by Republican Rep. Dean Heller of Nevada, to require those enrolling in a public plan or seeking subsidies to purchase private insurance to have their citizenship verified. Flecksoflife.com claimed on July 19 that "HC [health care] will be provided 2 all non US citizens, illegal or otherwise." Rep. Steve King of Iowa spread the claim in a USA Today op-ed on Aug. 20, calling the explicit prohibition on such coverage "functionally meaningless" absent mandatory citizenship checks, and it's now gone viral. Can we say that none of the estimated 11.9 million illegal immigrants will ever wangle insurance subsidies through identity fraud, pretending to be a citizen? You can't prove a negative, but experts say that Medicare—the closest thing to the proposals in the House bill—has no such problem.

THE HEALTH CARE DEBATE & ILLEGALS ...an AMERICAN SPEAKS

CL POSTER IN LOS ANGELES, WHERE $50 MILLION PER MONTH IS PAID OUT TO ILLEGALS IN WELFARE AND 47% OF THOSE EMPLOYED ARE ILLEGALS!



The Health Care Debate and Illegals (USA)


I'm trying to understand why all of a sudden this is a major issue, especially with the Republican party. They said and did nothing for well over a decade about the illegal immigrant problem as it's gotten worse and beyond reason, basically giving them carte blanche to all social services and government programs, loans for businesses, you name it. They sat there and took the bribes from big business to keep their mouths shut otherwise no money for re-election, right?

Now all of a sudden it's Obama's problem and he's to blame. Give me a fucking break. This guy has got some of the biggest balls that I've seen in my lifetime. I love hearing him call those fuckers out in their chamber. He spanked them all over the place tonight and that was funnier than hell to watch. I just hope he can get his agenda through without too much compromise.

The old fucks in the Senate need to retire. Plain and simple. The games are over...truth always wins out.


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CLOSE THE BORDER and save real money AN AMERICAN SPEAKS!

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CLOSE THE BORDER AND MORE WILL BACK THE INSURANCE REFORM

I am not in favor of handing (basically free) healthcare to every US citizen. But to hand to to the 20 million and growing illegal population ? NO WAY! Close the borders, change the laws and ship back the illegals and anchor families, and then use the BILLIONS that are saved to finance your plan. If we have to support someone, lets support our own citizens.

AN AMERICAN SPEAKS! OBAMA and the LA RAZA DEMS lie to us again!

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Liar! Is a proper word for Obama claim of No Illegal Medical Care-Bull (They will get med care, you know it.)


"Liar" is the perfect comment on the President's claim of... "illegals not getting taxpayer healthcare." Oh, Mr President, Illegal ALIENS won't get medical care with your new national health plan why, because it's, what... ILLEGAL?

Just like they don't cross the border, because it's ILLEGAL?

And they don't take jobs in America because... Oh, it's ILLEGAL?

And they don't drive without insurance because... It's ILLEGAL?

OK, I feel confident you have it all worked out now and the illegals won't be getting health care from the taxpayers.... Liar!

OBAMA LIES IN THE FACE OF AMERICA - illegals DO GET HISPANDERING HEALTH CARE!

Re: Facts Have A Liberal Bias?: Illegal Immigrants Not Covered - (The DEMS Are Lying-And They KNOW IT !!)

Read the entire article attached. The fact is that even though the wording of the Health Care Bill denies services
to illegals, the Democrats voted away any provision that would allow potential patients to be verified as citizens.

If you are a "progressive" you are likely getting a case of Reality Vertigo. But that's the truth: the Democrats
WANT to give your money to illegals, and they engineered the bill to do just that.

So, in effect, all of the Democrats that pound that provision are lying. orse, they KNOW they are lying !!!

READ AND UNDERSTAND THIS !!!!!:

Hallelujah. Somebody Finally Got Emotional
by Rick Oltman on Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:12 pm

The highlight of President Obama’s address to the joint session of congress on Wednesday night was Congressman Joe Wilson R-SC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Wilson_(U.S._politician) yelling out, “You lie!” after the president said, “The reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9lk6UXPqbw

Wilson violated protocol, embarrassed himself and “Republicans froze” according to an Associated Press report.

Now, I would really would prefer it if all of our elected officials, as well as their Czars and other appointees, behaved with dignity at all times and followed protocol.

That said I have to admit that I smiled at the outburst.

In Wilson’s statement afterwards he admitted that he let his emotions get the best of him.

Well, hallelujah. Somebody finally got emotional over a lie told by the president to a national audience, a lie about illegal aliens.

It is true that The House version of the health care bill explicitly prohibits spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get healthcare coverage. But the current proposal, HR3200, has no provision for checking the immigration status of applicants.

In fact, an amendment offered by the Republicans that had verification requirements to prevent illegal aliens from getting Medicaid benefits was defeated in committee 29-28. All 29 no votes were Democrats. http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090730/hr3200_deal_1.pdf

That gaping loophole will be exploited by illegal aliens and anybody who knows anything about illegal immigration knows it. The “illegal alien grapevine” will be informing everyone, in this country and the whole world, that they too can get medical care and that nobody will be checking.

In fact I would predict that as budgets, bureaucracies and bureaucrats grow, they will be soliciting illegal aliens. Not officially of course, but they will be doing it nonetheless. That is the nature of government bureaucracies.

I sent Congressman Wilson an email http://www.house.gov/formwilson/IMA/issue.htm saying that while he probably regretted what he said that I was thrilled that a member of congress finally got emotional over the immigration issue.

The whole immigration issue will be brought up sometime in the next few months. It has to be. Promises were made to the illegal-alien-industrial-complex. When that time arrives we need to, respectfully but forcefully, engage in the debate with energy equal to what we have seen at Tea Parties and Town Hall meetings. American’s voices are heard.

So, let’s get our concerns out there when the time comes. And, there are times when a little emotion is good, regardless of protocol.

It’s only about the future of our country, after all.

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