Friday, September 11, 2009

COST OF HEALTH CARE FOR ILLEGALS IN CALIFORNIA.... Someone tell OBAMA!

SAN JOSE MERCURY NEWS
ADD TO THESE FIGURES $50 MILLION PER MONTH PAID TO ILLEGALS IN WELFARE FOR LOS ANGELES COUNTY ALONE!


Controversy over Obama speech underscores cost of health care for illegal immigrants
By Karen de Sá

Posted: 09/10/2009 07:09:59

The latest dust-up over President Barack Obama's health-care-for-all mission — the congressman who angrily called Obama a liar during a nationally televised speech — underscored conservatives' fears that illegal immigrants would benefit from efforts to expand coverage.

But if immigrant-rich California is any indication, there are already millions of undocumented immigrants on publicly funded health plans — and it comes at a cost to taxpayers.

While the vast majority of federal benefit programs bar those who cannot present proof of citizenship, California has been more generous than other states. Taxpayers here contribute more than $1 billion each year to cover the health care costs of those who are in the country illegally.

The California Department of Health Care Services estimates 768,400 undocumented immigrants will receive coverage this fiscal year through Medi-Cal, the health program funded by state and federal tax money. The cost: $1.2 billion. While people without documentation aren't eligible for the full menu of comprehensive health care other low-income residents receive, those who show up at emergency rooms are covered.
Another state and federally funded program, Access for Infants and Mothers, serves pregnant women whose income is slightly higher than Medi-Cal eligibility allows. That program enrolls 12,000 women statewide at a cost of $123 million, according to the Legislative Analyst's Office. Some participants are presumed to be undocumented, said Lisa Murawski of the analyst's office, although no questions are asked.
According to the most recent estimates by the Public Policy Institute of California, there were 2.8 million illegal immigrants here in 2006 — one-quarter of the nation's total.

WHO REALLY LIED? HISPANDERING OBAMA, or JOE WILSON? I'M VOTING FOR JOE WILSON FOR PRESIDENT

Who really lied? HISPANDERING LA RAZA OWNED OBAMA, FOR WALL STREETS ENDLESS DRIVE FOR MORE ILLEGALS? OR JOE WILSON?
I’M VOTING FOR JOE WILSON. I KNOW HOW MUCH THE LA RAZA DEMS CON US FOR MORE AND MORE AND MORE and BIT BY BIT AMESTY!
IN CA WE’VE BEEN LIED TO BY FEINSTEIN, BOXER, PELOSI, LOFGREN, WAXMAN, BACA, BECERRA, SANCHEZ SISTERS, AND EVERY LA RAZA BOUGHT DEM IN THE STATE!


Health care talks focus on illegal immigrants

By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer 31 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Senators closing in on a comprehensive health care bill have whittled away all but the most contentious issues and one of those loomed large Friday: coverage for illegal immigrants.
Negotiators on the Senate Finance Committee thought they'd already resolved the question. That was before Republican Rep. Joe Wilson's shout of "You lie!" as President Barack Obama said in a speech Wednesday that illegal immigrants wouldn't be covered under his health plan.
That led senators to revisit the issue to make sure they have provisions in place to enforce prohibitions against illegal residents getting federally subsidized coverage.
"What we are trying to prevent is anyone who is here illegally from getting any federal benefit," said Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., a member of the so-called Gang of Six of three Democratic and three Republican members of the Finance Committee. The group is facing a deadline early next week to produce a bipartisan deal.
If they don't succeed, Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., plans to go it alone with a Democratic bill.
The outcome remains very much in doubt. A successful effort could form the basis for legislation that could appeal to a majority in the Senate since the Finance Committee has a moderate makeup that resembles the Senate as a whole.
This weekend will be critical as aides and lawmakers themselves hammer out language not just on illegal immigration, but also a handful of other thorny issues including abortion, medical malpractice and how much states must pay for an expansion of Medicaid.
The deal-or-no-deal question could be answered as early as Monday when the group meets again.
"Obviously we'll find out who wants to support the (bill) and who doesn't," Baucus said Friday. "I'm hopeful that there will be bipartisan support. And I'll keep working on it frankly over the weekend, on the telephone talking to people, so on and so forth."
Baucus' plan largely mirrors what Obama laid out in his speech Wednesday: expansion of coverage to most of the nearly 50 million uninsured, new requirements for individuals to obtain insurance, new prohibitions against insurance company practices like denying coverage based on personal health history and creation of a new marketplace called an exchange where consumers could shop for different health plans.
If Congress ends up creating a new government-run insurance plan it would be offered through the exchange, but unlike the four partisan bills that have emerged from committees in the House and Senate so far, Baucus' bill will substitute nonprofit co-ops for the public plan.
The White House says that Obama does not want illegal immigrants to be able to buy insurance through the new purchasing exchange as they would be allowed to do under Democratic legislation in the House. Spokesman Robert Gibbs said the White House will work with lawmakers on language to enforce that, although the Finance Committee bill is also expected to let illegal immigrants shop in the exchange, according to a Republican Finance Committee aide. The aide spoke on condition of anonymity because the negotiations were ongoing.
"Illegal immigrants would not be allowed to access the exchange that is set up," Gibbs said Friday. Verification requirements are "something we'd work out with Congress," he said.
The illegal immigrant controversy that led to the outburst from South Carolina's Wilson stems from Republicans' contention that illegal immigrants would be able to get federally funded health coverage under the House health bill — even though the bill expressly prohibits federal subsidies for illegals.
Critics note that there are no enforcement mechanisms, or language on how to verify whether or not someone is in this country legally.
THE TRUTH:
"Without a verification requirement it's essentially like posting a 55-mph speed limit and not having any highway patrol on the road," said Ira Mehlman, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

LA RAZA OWNED DEMS DEFEATED PAST MEASURE, AND NOW LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH CLAIMING OTHERWISE!
Democrats in two House committees defeated amendments that would have required verification of legal status. Many Democrats contend that such measures create barriers to legal residents getting the health coverage they need.
Verification provisions added to Medicaid several years ago require people to provide documentation of citizenship and identity, said Jennifer Tolbert, a policy analyst at the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation.
She said states found that the new requirements mainly caused delays or denials for people who were entitled to be part of the program.
REALITY CHECK. THERE ARE 38 MILLION ILLEGALS IN THIS COUNTRY, WHO IS GIVING ANY OF THEM “FREE” MEDICAL?
There are some 7 million illegal immigrants in this country who lack health insurance, according to the Pew Hispanic Center.
Unlike in the House bill or legislation passed by the Senate's health committee, the Finance Committee is aiming to include verification requirements. Anyone who tries to get subsidized coverage through a new health insurance exchange would have to provide valid Social Security numbers. Aides are working through the weekend to complete how that requirement would be implemented.
Another unsettled issue involves coverage for legal immigrants. Gang of Six member Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, wants a five-year waiting period before legal immigrants can get subsidized coverage, but Conrad said Friday that's not yet been resolved.

MOVE TO STOP DAY LABOR SITE IN SOUTHAMPTON, NY

Judicial Watch Files Amicus Curiae Brief in New York State Supreme Court Opposing Taxpayer-Funded Day Labor Site for Illegal Aliens

Plan to Establish Day Labor Site in Village of Southampton, New York Violates State and Federal Law



(Washington, DC) -- Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has filed an amicus curiae brief with the New York State Supreme Court in Suffolk County in support of concerned residents of the Town of Southampton and the Village of Southampton opposed to the Village’s plan to use public funds to operate a day labor site for illegal aliens. Judicial Watch contends the Village of Southampton’s proposal for a taxpayer-funded day labor site violates federal and state law.

According to Judicial Watch’s brief: “By creating and operating a taxpayer-funded marketplace for the employment of illegal aliens, the Village will become complicit in illegal activity. It also will encourage and induce illegal aliens to remain in the United States by making it easier for them to obtain employment and will aid and abet unlawful hiring. Such conduct violates both the letter and spirit of federal law. It should not be countenanced by the Court.”

Moreover, the Village of Southampton plans to use land for the day labor site that was purchased with monies from the Community Preservation Fund (CPF), a public fund regulated by a detailed statutory scheme authorizing only a narrow range of uses for property. Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Law request with the Village to determine whether or not officials abided by state laws governing the use of the land. The Village claimed it had not a single document responsive to Judicial Watch’s request.

“The Village apparently failed to undertake even the most basic analysis of whether its proposed use of the protected land at issue is consistent with the requirements of the statute,” Judicial Watch argued in its brief. “Logic and commons sense would appear to indicate that the use of CPF land as a hiring site for day laborers is inconsistent with the requirements governing the use of land purchased with CPF monies.”

“The Village of Southampton cannot use taxpayer funds to subsidize illegal activity,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “If the public officials from the Village want to solve the social problems caused by illegal immigration, they should help enforce the law. Providing taxpayer-funded incentive programs for illegal aliens will only make the problem worse.”

Judicial Watch has launched a number of lawsuits and investigations across the country in order to challenge local government actions and public expenditures that undermine immigration laws.

TAXPAYER-FUNDED DAY LABOR SITE in Thousand Oaks CA

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Judicial Watch Warns Thousand Oaks, California, about Legality of Taxpayer-Funded Day Labor Site


(Washington, DC) -- Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, sent a letter warning the City of Thousand Oaks, California, about the legality of its taxpayer-funded day labor site for illegal aliens. Documents obtained by Judicial Watch through the California Public Records Act indicate that the City of Thousand Oaks has expended in excess of $133,000 in taxpayer funds between 2001 and 2007 to subsidize the day labor site that serves illegal aliens.

“For the City to use taxpayer resources in this manner is akin to a city operating its own ‘red light’ district or illegal drug market to enable persons who participate in such activities to have a safe, orderly, well-regulated environment in which to engage in their illicit transactions,” Judicial Watch President noted in his July 31, 2007 letter to Thousand Oaks Mayor Andrew P. Fox. “We trust that taxpayer resources will not continue to be misused for the operation of a day laborer site. Kindly confirm that you will cease immediately expending citizen taxpayer dollars and resources for the day laborer site.”

As Judicial Watch noted in its letter, federal law prohibits the hiring of an illegal alien if it is known the alien is not authorized to work in the United States. Studies conducted around the country confirm that the vast majority of day laborers lack the proper documentation to work in the United States. Given that the City of Thousand Oaks day labor site does not screen for employment eligibility, as required by law, it is certain that users of the site are undocumented and, therefore, that the day labor site is facilitating illegal activity.

“Local officials must stop violating federal immigration law,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Thousand Oaks and other cities that subsidize illegal day labor not only violate the law but worsen the illegal immigration crisis.”

Judicial Watch has launched a number of lawsuits and investigations across the country challenging the improper use of taxpayer funds to operate day labor sites, including Herndon, Virginia, and Laguna Beach, California.

LAW BANNING ILLEGAL ALIENS seeking work in Redondo Beach, CA

Judicial Watch Files Amicus Curiae Brief in Support of Law Banning Illegal Aliens from Seeking Work on City Streets in Redondo Beach, California



(Washington, DC) -- Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption announced today that it has filed an amicus curiae brief in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in California in support of a City of Redondo Beach, California ordinance banning illegal aliens from seeking work on city streets. U.S. District Court Judge Consuelo Marshall ruled in April 2006 that the ordinance, first implemented in 1987, violated the illegal aliens’ First Amendment right to free speech and issued an injunction preventing police from enforcing the law.

Judicial Watch contends the lower court misapplied the First Amendment in its decision, failing to differentiate between commercial speech, which is entitled to lesser protection under the First Amendment, and political or expressive speech, which enjoys greater protection under the First Amendment.

“Not unlike hot dog vendors or t-shirt sellers commonly seen on the streets of busy cities across America, day laborers ‘propose a commercial transaction’ to prospective employers by standing in certain locations, like streets or sidewalks…no political message is conveyed. The only message is ‘hire me,’” Judicial Watch argued in its brief. “The District Court erred in its review of the City’s anti-solicitation ordinance by not analyzing street-side solicitation of employment as commercial speech. By doing so, the District Court failed to apply the appropriate First Amendment analysis to the ordinance. Because of this fundamental error, the District Court’s ruling should be reversed.”

Judicial Watch also pointed out that the District Court was wrong to suggest there are no laws preventing undocumented workers from seeking employment. It is unlawful for illegal aliens to work in the United States and for anyone to aid and abet the violation of federal immigration laws. According to a recent University of Illinois survey, at least seventy-five percent (75%) of day laborers in the United States are illegal aliens.

“Most Americans would reject the notion that illegal aliens begging for jobs in the streets should be protected under the First Amendment. We hope the appeals court agrees that the U.S. Constitution does not protect this illegal behavior,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Redondo Beach ought to be able to enforce its anti-solicitation law and to protect its citizens.”

Judicial Watch has launched a number of lawsuits and investigations across the country in order to challenge local government actions and public expenditures that violate and undermine immigration laws.

JUDICIAL WATCH - GARCIA v CITY of LAGUNA BEACH

Garcia v. City of Laguna Beach
View Discussion Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit in the Orange County Superior Court against the City of Laguna Beach for spending taxpayer funds to operate the Laguna Day Worker Center, a day laborer site that helps illegal aliens find jobs and provides other public benefits, including English language instruction. The lawsuit was filed on behalf of Laguna Beach taxpayers Eileen Garcia and George Riviere, who have been very active challenging the day laborer site because of all the illegal immigrants it attracts.

According to public records, the City of Laguna Beach provided a $21,000 grant for Fiscal year 2005-06, and a $22,000 financed grant for Fiscal Year 2006-07 to the South County Cross Cultural Council, a non-profit organization charged with operating the facility. The City of Laguna Beach also uses taxpayer funds to provide portable restroom facilities, trash removal, and to pay for leasing the property from the California Department of Transportation (Caltrans).

The City of Laguna Beach has expended taxpayer funds to operate the Laguna Day Worker Center since 1999. Day laborers using the center are charged a $1 referral fee each day he or she receives employment at the facility, while employers using the center pay a fee of $5. The center does not verify whether or not day laborers are eligible to work in the United States and does not require that day laborers provide any formal identification. According to several studies, the large majority of day laborers are in the United States illegally and therefore are not eligible to work in the United States.

Federal law prohibits the hiring of an undocumented worker, or referring an alien for employment for a fee, knowing the alien is not authorized for such employment. Federal law also requires verification of eligibility to work in the United States.

The case is currently before the California Court of Appeal, Fourth Appellate District Division Three (Case No. G039824). Oral argument was held in Santa Ana, California on September 17, 2008. A decision by the appellate court is expected by mid-December 2008.

JUDICIAL WATCH LEGAL ACTION SHUTS DOWN ALIEN DAY LABOR SITE

Judicial Watch Victory: Herndon Illegal Alien Day Labor Site Closed!
View Discussion "There is no question Herndon officials would not have made the decision to close the site if not for the pressure created by Judicial Watch's lawsuit on behalf of local taxpayers, filed in the fall of 2005..." -- JW President Tom Fitton



Judicial Watch was victorious in helping to shut down Herndon, Virginia's day laborer site for illegal aliens! The last day of operation for the site was September 14, 2007!

Judicial Watch led the fight against a plan that used tax dollars to help illegal immigrants find jobs.

On August 17, 2005, The Herndon Town Council ignored the rule of law, and the recommendation of the Herndon Planning Commission, and voted 5-2 to establish a "Day Laborer" site on public property.
Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit on behalf of a group of Herndon residents against the Town of Herndon on September 1, 2005.
Both federal and state law prohibits the Town of Herndon from committing public funds and resources in order to facilitate the illegal employment of undocumented aliens. 8 U.S.C. § 1324 states the criminal penalties of "bringing in and harboring certain aliens" while 8 U.S.C. § 1324a provides against the "unlawful employment of aliens." Also see Va. Code 63.2-503.1 which provides that "no person who is not a United States Citizen or legally present in the United States shall receive state or local public assistance."

ILLEGAL ALIEN MURDERER CLAIMS DISCRIMINATION!

FROM JUDICIAL WATCH:

Illegal Alien Murderer Claims Discrimination

Last Updated: Wed, 09/09/2009 - 12:16pm

An illegal alien serving a 15-year prison sentence for the hit-and-run murder of a Wisconsin teenager demanded a judge free him because he encountered discrimination when his immigration status was repeatedly referenced in court.
In August 2007 the intoxicated illegal immigrant (Eddie Carbajal-Lile) with a previous drunk-driving conviction ran a stop sign and caused a crash that killed a 17-year-old boy. Two other teenagers were injured in the accident and Carbajal-Lile fled the scene but was arrested a month later in Ohio.
Incredibly, the illegal immigrant already had open container and drunken driving convictions in Wisconsin, a notorious sanctuary state that protects undocumented aliens, and he got caught using various aliases during several encounters with law enforcement. Yet, he remained in the state long enough to murder an innocent American.
Carbajal-Lile’s faced more than two decades in prison for murdering the teen but prosecutors recommended 10 as part of a plea deal. A judge in eastern Wisconsin’s Sheboygan County Circuit Court tacked on five more years because the crime was so severe.
Through his U.S. taxpayer-financed public defender, the illegal immigrant filed a motion to vacate his sentence this month, claiming that race cannot be considered in court and mentioning his status as an illegal alien is no different than a racial reference. Six references about his illegal status equated to discrimination on the basis of race and nationality, according to the motion.
Fortunately, the same judge that tacked on the extra five years denied the motion this week, ruling that the court did not consider Carbajal-Lile’s nationality or race during sentencing. Sheboygan County prosecutors explained that all references to Carbajal-Lile's immigration status, limited English and Immigration and Customs Enforcement were in response to points the defense brought up, part of the discussion of the length of his sentence or victim statements.

JUDICIAL WATCH - LeMieux helps Mexicans get AMERICAN JOBS - Don't you wish he was the only one that was?!?

Senator Helps Mexicans Take Americans’ Jobs
View Discussion Last Updated: Tue, 09/08/2009 - 2:55pm
The chief of staff that Florida’s governor appointed as U.S. Senator heads a law firm embroiled in several scandals, including securing visas for Mexican construction workers by persuading the State Department that the foreigners had special skills that Americans didn't.

Florida’s newly appointed U.S. Senator, George LeMieux, hasn’t even been sworn in and already multiple allegations of cronyism have infested his meteoric political rise in the Sunshine State. The 40-year-old largely unknown lawyer gained notoriety when Republican Governor Charlie Crist picked him to replace Mel Martinez, who retired before completing his term.

LeMieux was Crist’s chief of staff and he’s also the chairman of a Florida-based law firm that specializes in helping companies hire foreigners—who work for less money—replace American workers inside the U.S. An investigative reporter for a south Florida television station revealed that the new senator’s firm secured dozens of visas for Mexicans to help construct a hotel and condominiums in an upscale beach neighborhood known as Bal Harbour.

As a result American sheet metal workers were left out of a job at a time of rising unemployment that included more than 2,000 sheet metal workers in south Florida. The new senator’s firm represented a Mexican sheet metal company that wanted to bring its own workforce into the U.S. and to obtain visas, it fraudulently argued that America workers weren’t available for the new project.

The type of visa that soon-to-be-Senator LeMieux (he gets sworn in this week) secured for the Mexicans is reserved for foreigners that possess unique skills unavailable in American workers. The State Department specifically states that the visas are issued only to “persons of extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business or athletics.” Executives of major corporations could also qualify as well as those who possess highly specialized skills essential to the efficient operation of a firm. Mexican sheet metal workers clearly don’t meet the criteria.

LeMieux’s political connections also helped his law firm land a half a million-dollar contract to represent Florida’s transportation department and a secret deal to negotiate a lucrative gambling contract with an Indian tribe that was subsequently found to be unconstitutional by the state’s Supreme Court. Now those strong connections have landed him in the U.S. Senate.

ID for ILLEGALS TO AVOID "PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP"????

MEXICANOCCUPTAION.blogspot.com
Should we all have a national ID? Yikes!
Well, we do!
Rebuttal to the poster at bottom(Gibson):
Every doctor in Beverly Hills puts a copy of your DL on file!
There is a reason why the La Raza owned DEMS want drivers licenses handed out to all illegals. It’s not that they need one to drive. In Mexican occupied Los Angeles, 23% of the drivers have no license, no insurance and their vehicle is registered in the name of a legal nominee (to avoid impound) or the title is so cloudy as to be untraceable.
Hispandering La Raza Hillary Clinton, while Senator for New York, busted her ass to get more illegals in the country and registered to vote. She went to town to get illegals drivers license knowing that illegals are NOT here because they want some “pathway to citizenship”. That crap is just government propaganda (like there being only 12 million illegals) and meant for gringo consumption! Mexicans are here to pillage, then head back to Mexico and live off social security and vote in U.S. elections to continue the Mexican welfare state from down there.
Illegals are not going to “stand in line, pay a fine, learn English, and pay back taxes”…. All is more crap our government uses to work the BIT BY BIT BY BIT AMNESTY, which began the day the 1986 “amnesty” ended!
Mexican, via La Raza, “the race”, is the virulently racist Mexican supremacist political party funded by our taxes, the Fortune 500, and the Mexican government, knows that the dems will always hispander for the illegals’ votes. Are you watching Obama hispander? Before Obama was elected, while on a campaign stop in Los Angeles, Obama had nothing to say about the fact that Mexican gangs were murdering in cold blood African-AMERICAS. He was hispandering so much salsa was dripping out of his big mouth. There is no class of American more devastate by the Mexican occupation than black America!
The current HISPANDER is that OBAMA’S HEALTH-CARE PLAN does not include illegals. It indeed does, and does so not by accident or omission, but by design. Anything to induce more illegals keeps wages depressed, Wall Street donors happy, and Mexican gang crime wave spreading like a viral epidemic.
So the Mexicans, who loathe this Nation, our people, laws, language and flag, can have quick access to all the rights of citizenship, voting, welfare, etc. the La Raza dems will work to give them driver’s licenses.
In Mexican occupied Orange County, CA, sister Reps. Loretta, and Linda Sanchez won their seats with the votes of illegals.
Both La Raza dems Dianne Feinstein, and Barbara Boxer worked hard for NO ENGLISH ONLY, and NO ID to vote to ease the illegals into the voting booths.
In 2006, when the Mexicans were marching on this Nation, waving hundreds of thousands of Mexican flags, Bill Clinton attended a La Raza convention in Orange County, seated next to Bush’s architect for open borders, KARL ROVE.
Feinstein and Boxer have continued to hustle 1.5 million additional illegals into this country under the guise of “special amnesty” for their BIG AG BIZ DONORS. All done despite the staggering unemployment of California under Mexican occupation, and despite the fact that one-third of all illegal farm workers are on welfare!
La Raza donors WELLS FARGO and BANK OF AMERICA (some of Feinstein’s paymasters) illegally open bank accounts for illegals. The Mexican drug cartel sends back BILLIONS in drug profits. Exploiting illegals is highly profitable. A huge number of foreclosures have been those of illegals. And the biggest financial backer of PAY DAY LOAN SHARKS which victimize illegals and America’s poor, is WELLS FARGO.
Nancy Pelsoi illegally hires illegals at her St. Helena winery. Dianne Feinstein has long illegally hired illegals at her San Francisco hotel. Both fight E-VERIFY. Both vow no walls, and total no-strings amnesty. They kept their big mouths shut about the numerous tunnels under the CA-MEX border for drugs and illegal trafficking. One tunnel was the length of 3 football fields long.
Rep. Zoe Lofgren of San Jose, like Hillary Clinton continue to push for CHAIN MIGRATION which would permit the extended families of the 38 million illegals here to legally bring up the rest of their families. Good “cheap” labor, voters, and Mexican gangsters? She recently meet at a La Raza convention in the WHITE HOUSE, which OBAMA WOULD NOT PERMIT THE PRESS TO ATTEND!
As far as costs!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO TO THE LOS ANGLES TIMES AND DO A SEARCH FOR “MEXICO UNDER SIEGE” and “MEXICAN GANGS”. Then do a search in your own local paper. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE MEXICAN DUMPSTER!

In Mexican occupied Los Angeles, 47% of those employed are ILLEGALS.
These illegals receive $50 MILLION per month in welfare.
There are 500 to 1,000 Mexican gang murders in Los Angeles alone, more than the entire European Union. Mexican gangs have now spread all over the country.
The Mexican tax-free underground economy in Los Angeles is calculated to be $2 BILLION per year.
The Christian Science Monitor has characterized Los Angeles as “Mexican gang capital of America”.
Los Angeles spends $10 million a year just in Mexican graffiti abatement!

RE "you lie!"


There's no provision for how the prohibition would be enforced, or any requirement for people to prove they are citizens or legal residents before getting health care benefits.

Does anyone really think that making doctors check a persons resident status is a good idea?
How would that lower costs when you have just forced another layer of paperwork on people that are not in the business of enforcing immigration laws.

Lets look at how checking resident status would work, the only proof of my birth place that I have, and anyone has is their birth cert. and or their passport.
Not everyone has those handy, so what you are really asking the Govt. to do force us all into get a National ID card.
It's what's known as 'unintended consequences'.
Do you really want a National ID card just so you can justify your hate of Mexicans?
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CLASHING SOCIETIES AND THE MEXICANS ARE WINNING WHILE YOU’RE PAYING FOR IT ALL!

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AMERICA vs MEXICO: CLASHING CIVILIZATIONS
By Frosty Wooldridge
Anyone understand why Mexicans fail at a successful civilization? Ever wonder why millions of them invade the United States in search of a better life? Have you noticed that once they arrive, they create the same kind of ‘society’ in the United States ? Unconsciously, they create the same conditions they left behind. You can take the boy out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the boy. For example, in Denver in December, illegal alien Navi dragged his girlfriend to death behind his car. Illegal alien Cruz shot his girlfriend dead in the back because she wouldn’t reconcile with him. Illegal alien Ruizz ran over and killed Justin Goodman, but Ruizz drove away from the scene leaving Goodman to die. In Greeley , Colorado they suffered 270 hit and run accidents in one year. Over 80 percent of hit and run wrecks in Denver involve illegal aliens. Denver boasts the drug smuggling capital of the West as well as the people smuggling mecca of the country. Illegals cheat, distribute drugs, lie, forge documents, steal and kill as if it’s a normal way of life. For them, it is. Mexico ’s civilization stands diametrically opposed to America ’s culture. Both countries manifest different ways of thinking and operating. With George Bush’s push to create the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America” by dissolving our borders with Mexico , he places all Americans at risk. Would you become friends with neighbors who throw their trash on city streets and parks, create ghettoes wherever they enclave their numbers, promote corruption, deal in violence, encourage drug use, manifest poverty, endorse sexism and downgrade education? America ’s culture and Mexico ’s culture remain diametrically opposed to one another. America ’s fought Mexico and won. Today, Mexico invades America with sheer numbers of poor. However, cultures rarely change and neither do their people. As you can see from the ten points below, everything about Mexico degrades everything about America . For further information, you may visit www.immigrationshumancost.org and www.limitstogrowth.org where you will find a plethora of information by a brilliant journalist Brenda Walker. Her original report may be viewed on www.Vdare.com on January 17, 2007 under the title: “Ten Reasons Why America Should Not Marry Mexico .” I suggest you read more of her work. She exemplifies incisive, sobering and shocking information. These ten point stem directly from Brenda Walker’s work. Let’s examine why America must not entangle itself by merging with Mexico . The legal age of sexual consent in Mexico is 12 years old. Sex with children at this age and younger is socially acceptable in Mexico . For example: A Mexican Lopez-Mendez pleaded guilty to sexual assault on a 10 year old girl in West Virginia . His excuse: sex with young girls was common with his people. He said, “I was unaware that it was a crime.” Mexicans remain the most sexist males next to Islamic men. Both boast the most misogynous cultures in the world. Rape and other violence toward women are not treated as serious crimes. In Mexico , a custom known as “rapto” whereby men kidnap women for sex is regarded as harmless amusement. Mexican society regards women little more than objects. Crime and violence remain mainstays of Mexican culture. Drug cartels and the Mexican army coordinate their massive efforts to promote drug distribution not only in Mexico but into the USA . Mexico City suffers the second highest crime rate in Latin America . Kidnapping remains second only to Columbia for ransom money. Beheadings, killings and gun fire erupt at drug distribution points on the US/Mexican border. Spontaneous hanging continues in Mexico . A mob beat up and burned to death two policemen on live television in 2004 in Mexico City . As Brenda Walker wrote, “Mexicans do not have the same belief as Americans that the law is central to the equitable functioning of a complex nation. It’s the Third World .” Mexicans abhor education. In their country, illiteracy dominates. As they arrive in our country, only 9.6 percent of fourth generation Mexicans earn a high school diploma. Mexico does not promote educational values. This makes them the least educated of any Americans or immigrants. The rate of illiteracy in Mexico stands at 63 percent. Drunk driving remains acceptable in Mexico . As it stands, 44,000 Americans die on our nation’s highways annually. Half that number stems from drunken drivers. U.S. Congressman Steve King reports that 13 American suffer death from drunken driving Mexicans each day. Alcoholism runs rampant in Mexican culture. They suffer the most DUI arrests. Mexicans set the benchmark for animal cruelty. Mexicans love dog fighting, bullfighting, cock fighting and horse tripping. Those blood sports play in every arena and backyard in Mexico . They expand into America as more Mexicans arrive. They also engage in “steer-tailing” where the rider yanks the animal’s tail in an attempt to flip it to the ground. In horse tripping, they run the animals at full gallop around a ring, then, use ropes to trip them at full speed. It’s a death sentence as the horses break their legs, teeth, shoulders and necks—all to the delight of the cheering Mexican fans. As La Raza confirms, Mexicans maintain the most racist society in North America . “For the Hispanic race, everything; for anyone outside the race, nothing!” Guadalupe Loaeza, a journalist, said, “Mexican society is fundamentally racist and classist. The color of your skin is a key that either opens or shuts doors. The lighter your skin, the more doors open to you.” Corruption becomes a mechanism by which Mexico operates. Corruption remains systemic. The Washington Post wrote, “ Mexico is considered one of the most corrupt countries in the hemisphere.” They feature drug cartels, sex slave trade, people smuggling, car theft cartels, real estate scam cartels, murder for money and, you must bribe your mail man to get your mail. Last, but not least, Mexicans are Marxists. They promote a one party government. As with any kind of Marxism, brutal totalitarian rule keeps the rich in power and everyone else subservient. As we allow millions of Mexicans to colonize our country, we can’t help but be caught up in these ten deadly cultural traits of Mexicans. With over 12 million Mexicans here today, the predictions grow to as many as 20 even 40 million Mexicans in a few decades as they come here for a better life. The fact remains, as they come to America for a better life, they make our lives a living hell.

ILLEGALS IN MARIN CALIFORNIA...CA under occupation

AN AMERICAN SPEAKS

NOT FAR FROM MARINE IS LA RAZA NANCY PELOSI'S ST. HELENA WINERY VALUED AT $20 MILION. PELOSI HAS LONG VOWED THERE WILL NEVER BE A WALL, NEVER BE E-VERIFY, BUT WILL BE MUCHO REGISTERED ILLEGALS TO VOTE DEM IF THEY HISPANDER ENOUGH.

PELOSI IS ALSO HEAVILY INVESTED IN SUNKIST, WHICH HAS THE SAME POLICY THAT PELOSI DOES: WE DO NOT HIRE LEGALS HERE FOR LIVING WAGES!

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illegals in Marin


Someone needs to take care of the helpless asses of Marin, but the helpless asses only want to pay a quarter of the going rate because they don't know what work is worth. Hence the huge infestation of illegal aliens, who don't know any better, and think that $5 an hour is a LOT of money, because they didn't earn that much in a whole day "back home". Besides, everything in the US is free, at least the important things; food, housing, clothes, transportation, medical care... as long as you're a foreign citizen illegally living and working in the US.

Any Marin trophy wife who's main toil and chore for the day is to drive her kids to school and pick them up so the other trophy wives can see how much money they spent on a vehicle is helpless beyond belief, and her nebish husband is not much better. They will be the first to be consumed when the shit hits the fan, the will probably be killed by their own servant-class, the illegal aliens. The soft-bigotry is astounding, these people think that they are "helping the little brown people" and doing a good deed by exploiting them and sticking us with the bill for extra prisons and police support, additional trash clean up, bankrupt hospitals, the devastation of the drug trade, return of diseases that were wiped out in the US, anchor babies that are like an anchor around the neck of public schools, etc. I hope they get everything that is coming to them.

There are 22 different programs that allow foreign citizens to legally work in the US, WHY do we tolerate illegal immigration and the exploitation that occurs because of it?

WHY ILLEGALS ARE A DRAIN TO OUR COUNTRY - An American Speaks

THE POLITICIANS KNOW WHAT THE ILLEGALS ARE COSTING US. THEY DID A CONGRESSIONAL REPORT WITH AND HAVE THE STAGGERING COSTS DELINEATED.
HOWEVER THE INVASION OF 38 MILLION ILLEGALS HELPS DEPRESS WAGES $200 TO $300 BILLION PER YEAR. IT'S THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS THAT PAYS FOR THE LOSS OF JOBS, MEXICAN WELFARE AND MEXICAN CRIME WAVE.

THE LA RAZA HISPANDERING LIFER-DEMS, FEINSTEIN, BOXER, CLINTON, PELOSI, REID, WAXMAN and now BARACK OBAMA DO NOT WORK FOR THE PEOPLE. THEIR PAYMASTERS ARE WALL STREETERS. BANKSTERS, DRUGSTERS AND LA RAZA!


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why illegals are a drain on our country (cali the welfare state)


Financial planning 101 for our elected officials

You have 2 families... "Joe Legal" and "Jose
Illegal". Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in
California .

"Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes
$25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted.

"Jose Illegal" also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and
gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

Joe Legal.. $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week = $52,000 per
year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax. Joe Legal now has
$31,231.00.

Jose Illegal... $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week = $31,200.00
per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes.
Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays for Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage ..
$1000.00 per month = $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $19,231.00.

Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local
clinics at a cost of $0.00 per
year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money to be eligible for Food Stamps or Welfare so
Joe Legal pays for food... $1,000.00 per month = $12,000.00 per year. Joe
Legal now has $7,231.00.

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is
eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare. Jose Illegal still has
$31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month = $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal
is now in the hole -<$4,769.00>.

Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy, which entirely
pays his rent of $500.00 per month = $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still
has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays and gets a part time job after work
to make ends meet.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family..

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school.

Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get
free government sponsored lunches.

Joe Legal's children go home after school. Jose Illegal's children have an
after school ESL program which, again, is provided free of charge.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but
Joe Legal paid for them and Jose Illegal did not pay.

ARE YOU MAD YET?!?!?!
YOU DAMN SURE SHOULD BE!!!!!