Sunday, December 4, 2011

Immigrant teen's death touches off a charged debate

Immigrant teen's death touches off a charged debate

THERE ARE MANY VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

INCLUDING THE MORE THAN 2,000 CALIFORNIANS MURDERED BY MEXICANS THAT FLED BACK OVER THE BORDER TO AVOID PROSECUTION. WHICH PAPER WRITES ARTICLES ON THEIR AGONY?

THE PEOPLE OF CA PUT OUT BILLIONS A YEAR PAYING FOR MEXICO'S EXPORTATION OF POVERTY AND CRIMINALS.

WHEN HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A MEXICAN WAVE AN AMERICAN FLAG?

IF LA RAZA WANTS WANTS DREAM ACTS, LET THEM ASK THE RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD, MEXICAN CARLOS SLIM, TO PAY FOR IT!

VIVA LA RAZA? THERE'S NOTHING MORE ANTI-AMERICAN, OR RACIST THAN A MEXICAN!

CRAIGSLIST flagger stalker - CL PERMITS ONE CRIMINAL STALKER TO CONTROL ALL POLITICS AND RANTS FORUMS IN THE NAME OF CORPORATE PROFITS!

CRAIGSLIST is substantially a highly profitable platform for CRIME.

THOSE THAT HAVE ATTEMPT TO USE THIS “FREE” PLATFORM FOR POSTING ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ARE AWARE OF THE CL FLAGGER, AND HAVE PROBABLY GIVEN UP ATTEMPTING TO POST, AS GIBSON’S CONTROL OVER CL CONTINUED FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS TO EXPAND UNTIL NOW HE CONTROLS ALL OF CL POLITICS AND RANTS FORUMS AROUND THE COUNTRY.*
While CEO Jim Buckmaster would claim it is a platform for FREE SPEECH, on the CRAIGSLIST politics and rants forums around the country, in fact CL has long permitted on individual, RICHARD GIBSON of California turn these forums around the country into his personal platform for HATE CRIMES, RACISM, ANTI- SEMITISM AND HIS UNRELENTING CRIMINAL HARASSMENT and STALKING of those that attempt to post on these forums.

GIBSON CONTROLS ALL CRAIGSLIST politics and rants forums around the country. Gibson overrides flagging and deletes ALL posts that are not his own!


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/rnr/2697359503.html

Re:If you make threats to Vee on here..
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Date: 2011-11-11, 3:21PM EST
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All right, here we go. I told you not to send me any more threats. You are obviously too stupid to listen.
Here is what appears to be the scoop on Vee, apparently a prime example of too much crack.
His Name is Richard Hillary Gibson
He uses the moniker Leroy Stancil and an email address of vsp129@gmail(dot)com to issue his infantile threats.
His business web is @ http://www.bankruptcyexpertsla.com/
He is an active Member of the State Bar Of California: http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/111535
You may file complaints against him @1-800-843-9053 Instructions: http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Attorneys/LawyerRegulation/FilingaComplaint.aspx
A Richard H Gibson has a residence at 23927 Ingomar St ,Canoga Park, CA 91304-6112
He appears to be married to Irena D. Gibson
There is a phone listed to Irena at: (818) 436-2897 where you might try to reach Richard/Leroy/Vee.
The phone number for the Canoga Park Police Department is: (818) 756-4800
The Detective Division is closed today but Lt. Storker heads that division.
His threats to me so far have not risen to a level requiring prosecution but his actions are indicative of degrading mental health.
This presents another possibility for removal from the public.
Links to articles about this moron are:
http://mexicanoccupation.blogspot.com/2011/05/craigslist-permits-one-flagger-to.html
and
http://mexicanoccupation.blogspot.com/2011/07/craigslist-flagger-stalker-ca-lawyer.html
Save this page before it is flagged. Give Vee a call. Invite him to bring his bad ass on over.
I will re-post, faster than you can flag, dumbassed Vee.
Tell all of us how you are winning. Comical Irony.
• it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests


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GIBSON HAS FOR FIVE YEARS STALKED A NATION USING CRAIGSLIST AS HIS PLATFORM.
AT ONE TIME, GIBSON USED THE EMAIL OF i.flagged.your.post. HE WOULD EMAIL A POSTER THROUGH CRAIGSLIST INFORMING THE POSTER THAT HE WAS ABOUT TO OVERRIDE FLAGGING AND DELETE THE POST.
THROUGH FLAGGING HARASSMENT, AND CRIMINAL STALKING, GIBSON NOW CONTROLS ALL OF CL.
CRAIGSLIST IS FULLY AWARE OF THIS CRIMINAL STALKER! THEY HOPE GIBSON DOES NOT MARKET HIS FLAGGING OVERRIDE THEREBY MAKING CL WORTHLESS.
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----- Original Message -----
From: I flagged your post
To: comm-697160249@craigslist.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:29 PM
Subject: Lucifer is caling GIBSON! HE MISSES YOU!
** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
Honestly, shut the fuck up already.

Your posts have nothing to do with politics.

Nobody cares about your beef with Gibson.

Get on with your life.


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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Gibson
To: comm-676313268@craigslist.org
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:11 PM
Subject: CRAIGS LIST permits Los Angeles hate monger override flagging (RICHARD GIBSON mental case)
** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

I told you.  Every lying post you put up spreading nonsense about me will come down.  Every one of them.  You can post nonsense of any subject you like.  You can not spread lies about me.
Rick Gibson
GIBSON LAW PC
Warner Center, Tower Five
21800 Oxnard Street, Suite 310
Woodland Hills, California 91367-3633
Telephone: 818-716-7950
Facsimile: 818-716-7995
e-mail: Rick@Gibson-Law.com
BUSINESS LITIGATION AND
REAL ESTATE LAW
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----- Original Message -----
From: I flagged your post
To: comm-674161376@craigslist.org
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer & MEX DRUG CARTEL say NO! NO! NO! (to building wall with NarcoMex)
** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

FLAGGED.  I warned you about using bad language.  You didn't listen.  You belong to me now.  All your posts are flagged.  Give up already, there's no way you can win.  It takes you at least five minutes to create a post.  It takes me five seconds to flag it.  You don't stand a chance.  I and others like me will make sure your posts don't last, you hateful little troll.
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----- Original Message -----
From: I flagged your post
To: comm-668570151@craigslist.org
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:15 PM
Subject: smells like Gibson again! (Woodland Hills ran out of anti-psychotic)
** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html
When are you going to learn?  Nobody wants to hear about you and Gibson.  Nobody cares.  Nobody knows who Gibson is, nobody really wants to know.  That's your beef.  Send me your home address, and I'll be happy to explain it to you in person.  Until then I'm going to flag anything you post.
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----- Original Message -----
From: I flagged your post
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:17 PM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: REx2: Neocon Zionist threat. DUH,YOU AREWRONG! - (TimWinckler for
Yes, there are many Gibsons.  They clone them in a secret laboratory deep underground and then seed them all throughout the U.S.  Gibsons lurk in every shadowy alley, under every bed, in every closet, waiting to jump out and grab you.  Gibson is the boogeyman, and everyone who tells you to shut the fuck up is Gibson.  Nobody else except Gibson would ever disagree with you, or think you're an asshole.

Just keep telling yourself that.
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On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:49 PM, wrote:
gibson, both of him, all of him, are just sickos. nothing more.
----- Original Message -----
From: I flagged your post
To: (REDACTED)
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:38 PM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: REx2: Neocon Zionist threat. DUH, YOU AREWRONG! - (TimWinckler for
You are SO goddamn retarded.  Gibson is a conservative, I'm a LIBERAL.  Clear enough for you?
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----- Original Message -----
From: I flagged your post
To: (REDACTED)
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:26 PM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: REx2: Neocon Zionist threat. DUH, YOU ARE WRONG! - (TimWinckler for
Me again, douchebag.  You suck.  Deal with it.
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CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY JOEL SELIK RECEIVES MESSAGE FROM CRAIGSLIST POSTER ABOUT RICHARD HILARY GIBSON:\

----- Original Message -----
From: SELIKLAW@aol.com
To: (REDACTED)
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:53 PM
Subject: Fwd: Swingle Msg. 2.13.09 David Hajoftek

message I received

What was this email's involvement?

Joel
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Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near you now.

David Hajoftek called about a subpoena he received from Google related to one of his email addresses. "joeyhahagambino@ (REDACTED).  He said he believes his email address may have been included in error.  He said he knows of Gibson and that he habitually harasses people on Craigs List, but that is the extent of his knowledge.  He's not sure why his email address is being subpoenaed.  He would like a call back to let him know what this is all about.  He said he has spoken to Google but they won't tell him anything.  He said if he is not in, can you just leave a detailed message for him on his voice mail saying what this is about and if it was in error.  925-686-(REDACTED)
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CALIFORNIA LAWYER RICHARD HILARY GIBSON HAS HAD CRIMINAL COMPLAINTS FILED AGAINST HIM FOR INTERNET STALKING, HARASSMENT AND THREATS TO MURDER THOSE HE CAN’T HARASS OFF CRAIGSLIST.
GIBSON, HIDING BEHIND MONIKERS, OR STOLEN IDENTITY, HAS THREATENED TO MURDER POSTERS, OFFERED REWARDS FOR THE MURDER OF THOSE HE HATES, CONTACTED POSTERS BY PHONE, SUBPOENAED THEIR PRIVATE INTERNET RECORDS, THREATENED LAWSUITS AGAINST THOSE THAT EXPOSED HIS FLAGGING HARASSMENT, STALKING OR HATE CRIMES, AND HAS POSTED THE EMAIL ADDRESSES, PLACES OF WORK, PHONE NUMBERS AND IMAGES OF THOSE HE IS STALKING.
SOME CRAIGSLIST RANTS FORUMS ARE ENTIRELY CONTROLLED BY GIBSON AND SERVE ON OTHER PURPOSE THAN AS A PLATFORM FOR HIS STALKING!
ONE GIBSON VICTIM ON CL CHICAGO RANTS, WAS REPEATEDLY HARASSED BY GIBSON INDUCING HIM TO TAKE HIS LIFE BY IMBIBING DRANO. THERE WERE LITERALLY DOZENS OF THESE POSTS DAILY FOR MONTHS UNTIL GIBSON WAS EXPOSED.
WHEN GIBSON’S CRIMINAL POSTS ARE EXPOSED, HE SIMPLE DELETES THE POSTS, BUT HIS CRIMINAL THREATS REMAIN UP UNTIL THEY EXPIRE. CRAIGSLIST DOES NOTHING TO STOP GIBSON’S CRIMINAL STALKING!

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CRAIGSLIST - PLATFORM FOR CRIMINAL STALKING, AND HATE CRIMES.

THE CL FLAGGER, RICHARD HILARY GIBSON HAS POSTED INDUCEMENTS FOR THOSE HE'S HARASSING AND STALKING TO COMMIT SUICIDE BY GUN, OR IMBIBING DRANO.

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Craigslist Misuse Creates First Felony Under New Missouri Internet Law

Suicide Prompted Legislation; Is it Enforceable?

By Gary Davis
Takeaways

 This article is about the first internet felony under a new Missouri internet law.
Craigslist has become a monster site. With a few exceptions Craigslist is a place where you can post an ad for free. Further, at Craigslist you can find virtually anything you want to buy for sale. Unfortunately a popular site like Craigslist brings problems that can be construed as "criminal acts."
St. Louis Post Dispatch writer Shane Anthony has posted an article on stltoday.com. (St. Louis Today.com) The title of the article is "Craigslist ad leads to felony harassment charge against St. Peters woman."
The situation that has arisen at Craigslist is an example of the extent that the internet can be exploited for ill as well as perhaps showing how ineffective trying to police it can be.
Elizabeth A. Thrasher, 40, posted a picture of a 17-year-old girl in a provocative pose in the "Casual Encounters" of Craigslist. The ad would lead people (men particularly) to think that the ad was an invitation for sexual encounters. In the ad the girls e-mail address, cell phone number, picture and employer were listed.
Thrasher's anger stems from the fact that the teenager is dating her ex-husband.
Thrasher became angry. She got into an argument with the girl's mother and the teen promptly sent a MySpace message telling Thrasher to "grow up."
Actually this would not be much of a news story except for a major issue: Elizabeth Thrasher has been charged with the first felony in Missouri as the result of legislation passed in response to a girl's suicide that was prompted by online harassment.
Thrasher's attorney doesn't think that prosecutors have a chance of getting a conviction because (paraphrasing him) the statute is poorly written.
The new law in Missouri was written in response to the suicide of Megan Meier, a teenager, who committed suicide after being harassed by an adult neighbor.
Perhaps the real story here is what is the future of the internet? Can the internet be "policed?" It's beginning to look like it cannot be.
Despite the fact that a girl committed suicide the person who initiated the harassment was only charged and convicted of four misdemeanors and, those are apparently going to be overturned by a judge.
As the father of three boys who grew up in the "internet age." It was distressing how much trash was on the internet. "Blocking sites" is often a joke because clever people can set their sites up with different types of "key search words" and kids trying to do homework run into them.
What is the internet to become? It could become a resource that provides news, information, global communication and other positives. Or, will the internet become a "black hole" where people, especially young people, are victims of 'virtual crime" and where the only "information" available is voyeuristic entertainment sans any form of policing?
We have to ask ourselves some hard questions about what direction the internet is to take or we may pay a terrible price; Megan Meier already has.
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GIBSON’S NAME APPEARS ALL OVER CL, FREQUENTLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH HIS STALKING AND HARASSMENT.
ON CL EUGENE OREGON, GIBSON HARASSES A HANDICAPPED PERSON.
GIBSON, TAUNTING THOSE HE’S HARASSING, FREQUENTLY POSTS HIS OWN NAME AND ANNOUNCES THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS TOO STUPID TO CATCH UP WITH HIM.

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Gibson’s victim’s post response:
Re: Cripple Hater
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Reply to: pers-814583314@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-08-26, 6:05PM PDT
First, I'd like to thank you for your kind words. I very much appreciate that. Again thank you.
To be clear his name is Richard Hillary Gibson and he's a very sick screwed up guy who's addicted to speed.
And, yes, I'm the person that he's been attacking and, yes, I'm physically disabled but, as you can see by my post, not mentally disabled at all. lol
Not to worry though because he'll soon be dealt with.
I've already begun the process of assembling a legal team to construct a case and bring him to task for his violations not only against me but against literally hundred of other people he has been attacking for the last four years.
Many of his posts have been sent to the Jewish Anti Defamation League, The National Organization For Women, The NAACP, among other groups so he'll soon find himself not only dealing with me but with all those other groups as well. And, yes, they will be dealing with him.
Again thanks for your kind words and thoughtful post. I really do appreciate it.
Have yourself a wonderful day.


THE BELOW POST THAT REFERENCES A HANDICAPPED IS A TYPICAL GIBSON POST. OFFENSIVE, ABUSIVE, FOUL, AND DISGUSTING.


Do you have crazy poster named Richard Gibson? (Oregon)
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Reply to: pers-814645082@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-08-26, 6:51PM PDT
Up in Eugene Oregon our craigslist is being harassed supposedly by a well known lawyer who allegedly is a meth-head and lives in LA. He has a crippled lady counter posting him who claims to know him and has the FBI after him. I believe this is all one crazy person posting as several characters.
Thanks,
Eugene Oregon Rants and Raves
Feel free to post to all of us at: http://eugene.craigslist.org/rnr/
We love LA, not really, hehe
Do you know of this crazy poster?
"Richard Hillary Gibson, a psychotic disbarred lawyer speed freak from Los Angeles. You can read all about him here but do it quickly before he flags this post. http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pol/799186882.html" Below is one of many typical posts from him:
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GIBSON’S:
Of course you are rolling on the floor..YOU'RE CRIPPLED! HA! You know and we know..you are the impotent one..you're crippled! LOL!While I was out I ....parked in a handicapped space, scratched the fuck out of this cripples car AND stole a handicapped card from some other useless cripples car. "Thank you" to the cripple for leaving your window open just enough. Hey, I can reproduce these...You are inspiring me...I am going to hand these out for free..to anybody that wants them. Well, and sell a few to folks that aren't my friends. CHECK E-BAY SOON! You are about to see A LOT more of these around Eugene. If I hit E-Bay..everywhere! Oh yeah. Thank you.
Oh, I posted a BUNCH of cripple jokes on some kids sites, and will continue to spread fear and dislike of cripples. They are fucking useless anyway.
You are a perfect example of why people like you used to be and still should be put away in institutions. Of course you are yawning..you are half a person..life itself is tough for you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Maybe you can tell us a bit about your personal hygiene? Cripples are always dirty. They can't properly clean themselves. Did you ever notice cripples are usually disgusting fatties? Why is that? Do they NEED to eat all day long in front of their computers? Why is it THEY have no respect for their bodies..Oh yeah, their bodies have let them down. How do you wipe your ass? Who helps you?
Gee. I wonder how many cats you have? Does your APARTMENT smell like cat piss, n the shit you can't effectively wipe off your ass? Typical lazy cripple.
Remember; If it weren't for the handicapped, we'd NEVER get parking spaces!
Still here half person. You know you are, That's why you are so angry. HAHAHAHAHA If I was this Dick guy..why wouldn't I be flagging your garbage? You're just a loser that needs attention. LIKE THE REST OF SOCIETY-I AM THROUGH WITH YOUR USELESS ASS. *YAWN* No more attention, loser.
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GIBSON’S POST:
Do you have crazy poster named Richard Gibson? (Oregon)
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Reply to: pers-814645082@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-08-26, 6:51PM PDT
Gibson’s post in Oregon:
 “I pop onto R&R for a minute and see this post about Dick Gibson”
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GIBSON’S POST OF 08-25-08 IN OREGON
Youeass Ismine? NO-Myass Isfine! (His mom's basement)
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Reply to: pers-812218807@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-08-25, 10:31AM PDT
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Some little twat keeps e-mailng me saying he knows who I am with the tag- Yourass Ismine(hahahahahahaha) . Today I got one saying he knows my name is Dick Gibson. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Who the fuck is Dick Gibson? Then again, who the hell cares? I pop onto R&R for a minute and see this post about Dick Gibson. Great detective work! Ya read one article and suddenly you know everything. Typical. Man, I can't wait until school starts so theses punks will at least be out of our hair. On more time little man...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Come get some little boy. What are you going to do?? Keep e-mailing me? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm not who you think I am. I think you will be surprised. I'm not Dick. But more importantly, I'm not scared. I am going to laugh at this one ALL DAY. Gotta show this to my friends! lol! By the way..my ass? IS fine! So is my glass! I'm going to go blow some awesome glass right now and make around four hundo in a few hours. See Ya..Wouldn't want to be ya!
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THIS WAS POSTED BY RICHARD GIBSON 3-18-10 ON CL L.A. RANTS:
Re...porn poster RICHARD HILARY GIBSON flagging posts today
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Date: 2010-03-18, 3:46PM PDT
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You cant stop me you pussy! You wish you could but it drives you crazy that you have no power!! LMAOROTFL.....LOL
• it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
 

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Flagging Is Better Therapy Than A Shrink! (West Village)
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Date: 2009-10-07, 5:08PM EDT
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Craigslist doesn't seem to think there's any problem with allowing me to flag your posts, and I love them for it!
When I read your help wanted ad, I replied with my qualifications, then went back to your ad, and BEEP! I get rid of it by flagging. What a great way to whittle down the competition!
When you express an opinion I don't like for any reason whatsoever, BEEP! I flag it. Man! Such power!
When you are selling the same TV that I am for much less money, BEEP! I flag it. Gone. No contest.
When I read that personals ad from the guy who had the nerve to politely say he was not attracted to overweight girls, Man was I pissed! How dare he have preferences! BEEP!
When I'm bored, or angry, or feeling powerless, I just go on Craigslist and troll around, flagging all kinds of ads, just for the hell of it.
Thank you, Craigslist, for giving me an outlet to vent my extreme dysfunction and general anger at the world by allowing me censorship power over everybody and anybody here!
Luff ya!
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Gibson on illegal immigration and Mexicans. Gibson has removed THOUSANDS of posts that reference illegal immigration.
“As everyone who reads this site knows, there have been literally hundreds of posts over the last two years, commenting on my supposed views on immigration.” RICHARD HILARY GIBSON, CL FLAGGER THAT HAS SPENT MOST OF THE LAST FIVE YEARS STALKING CL, HARASSING AND FLAGGING!
                                                                                
Reply to: rick@gibson law.com
Date: 2008 04 02, 11:09AM PDT

I am Rick Gibson, the attorney in Woodland Hills who has received so much attention on this site. As everyone who reads this site knows, there have been literally hundreds of posts over the last two years, commenting on my supposed views on immigration. I can not imagine why anyone would care how I feel about immigration, but, since there has been so much discussion of this, and all of it has been inaccurate, I wanted to set the record straight.
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UNTIL HE WAS EXPOSED, GIBSON FREQUENTLY POSTED ON CL LOS ANGELES, AND SENT CRIMINALLY THREATENING EMAILS AS “IRELAND”, AN IDENTITY OF A REAL PERSON GIBSON HARASSED OFF CL.*
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul T. Ireland
To: (REDACTED)
Cc: (REDACTED)
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: WELCOME TO THE DUMBASS FORUM (ONE DERANGED WINGNUT-100 POSTS)
(REDACTED GIBSON VICTIM),
Thanks for providing proof that I've warned you to stop harassing me, to stop sending me copies of posts made by other people, to stop committing fraud, libel and slander by claiming that my identity has been stolen by someone else, that posts made by others were made by me, and making outrageous claims about drug use, hiring undocumented workers, being involved in prostitution, being a homosexual, posting pornographic photos, posing in all craigslist cities at all hours, etc.  Thanks for providing proof that you have refused to comply with my request that you stop emailing me and stop harassing me and my family.
None of the things you say about me, my identity, or "Gibson" is true, but it is true that if you do not stop harassing me, I will take you to court to get a court order to remove your internet access, and if your gutless ISP does not stop your harassment, and the courts don't stop it, I will indeed make a trip to California to put a bullet through your brain.
I have the right to defend myself against those who harass me, violate my rights, and otherwise pose a danger to myself and my family. 

Paul T. Ireland

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----- Original Message -----
From: Paul T. Ireland
To: (REDACTED)
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: gibson, did you move to NYC?

Hey (REDACTED GIBSON VICTIM), you ignorant asshole!  I'm not Gibson.  Stop calling me Gibson.  My name is Paul Ireland.  It always has been and always will be.  This has always been my own email address and has never belonged to or been used by anyone other than myself.  I have never posted anywhere in Craigslist other than Los Angeles, and now I don't live there anymore.  I don't know where Gibson lives and I don't give a shit.  I do know that by fucking with me, you are taking your life into your own hands.
Stop emailing me!!!  I've sent several of your harassing emails to your ISP and I guarantee you will be happy if all that happens is that you lose your internet access.
If your internet provider does not stop you from emailing me and you don't stop on your own, I will personally come to your location and shoot you with my Beretta 9mm.
I've warned you dozens of times and I am not making a threat.  I'm  making a promise.  Stop emailing me and harassing me or face your own death.
I consider insane people like you to be a threat, and I am perfectly within my right to defend myself and my family with deadly force if necessary.
This is your final warning. 

Paul T. Ireland
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FROM 2008
SEE ALASKA AND SEATTLE FILES FOR MULTIPLE MONIKERS ISSUES



this is why the albuquerque r&r is dead (BE WARNED HE IS HERE TOO)
Reply to: pers-773897254@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-07-28, 5:23PM PDT
it's D-E-A-D, wanna know why? Because that ass-hole HUGE/tiny/krusty/vato/UTBT/LA-ABQ-LA and 50 more fake names)killed it and now he's on your board - (I recognize the writing style and the same old stupid pics). Watch out for "Dude". He starts out benign but then metastasizes into a vile worm that will strangle your board and bring it to a halt. He'll post under many different names and will cross-talk with himself. He's inflammatory, a troll and a professional spammer (if there even is such a thing). He's infactuated with fat women, mercilessly making fun of retarded people and he posts pictures of feces. He gets on an "illegals" kick. Be warned. He's a pseudo-intellect, is homophobic, a woman hater and some have accused him of being a pedophile. Once he takes over, he'll flag every post but his own. He killed Santa Fe's board too. Step on this cockroach before he ruins your board.



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FILE: GIBSON – IDENTIFIED Chicago
Hey, Mr R Gibson (Good News)
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Date: 2010-06-01, 8:33PM CDT
Reply To This Post
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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, you're just pissed because I proved you to be a twit! And a liar! Get over it! Sorry, it wasn't even difficult. Come back when you have more, Lawyer! Yeah, I got your E-Mail, and No, I don't EVER E-Mail anyone from CraigsList. Certainly not a twit.
(You have proved nothing. Keeping track of who you are arguing with is probably the first thing you should focus on. Maybe try not posting so much.)
****Sorry, I misspoke. I didn't have to prove anything! You prove you are a liar and a TWIT each time you post! I am not arguing with you. You are arguing with me. I don't even want to communicte with you! If you will stop whining so much, and threatening to FLAG posts, I wouldn't need too post so often.
Besides, If you are who you say you are, whats a California lawyer doing complaining about what is posted on Chicago, R&R? I hear you have been run off all the California sites because all you do is whine and ask for gay sex! Even the fudgepackers in San Francisco won't have anything to do with you. Just do a Google!
Now shut the hell up or I'll OUT your ass! I have never done it before, but there is always a first time! And the next time you E-Mail me, I will forward a copy to the Managing Partner of your firm. No threat. Fact, twit!
(Right. Whatever you fucking pussy. You'll do that when you actually start posting politics in the political section... which will be NEVER!)
****See what I mean, twit? You are dense! You admit I'll NEVER post in the political section, yet you continue your tirade. Remember what I said about making the same mistake over and over? What results do you expect too change? You admit I won't do so but continue your whining. I suggest you find something too control, like your mental illness, because you don't control me nor Chicago R&R.
****"Right. Whatever you fucking pussy." Ooooooooh! I'm so insulted, a twit called me a pussy. That's funny! Now if a real man called me a pussy I might be insulted, but with you I just laugh. It is funny! And don't ever believe I won't do something I say I will. Just try me! Twit!

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Hey, Mr R Gibson (Good News)
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Date: 2010-06-01, 8:33PM CDT
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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, you're just pissed because I proved you to be a twit! And a liar! Get over it! Sorry, it wasn't even difficult. Come back when you have more, Lawyer! Yeah, I got your E-Mail, and No, I don't EVER E-Mail anyone from CraigsList. Certainly not a twit.
(You have proved nothing. Keeping track of who you are arguing with is probably the first thing you should focus on. Maybe try not posting so much.)
****Sorry, I misspoke. I didn't have to prove anything! You prove you are a liar and a TWIT each time you post! I am not arguing with you. You are arguing with me. I don't even want to communicte with you! If you will stop whining so much, and threatening to FLAG posts, I wouldn't need too post so often.
Besides, If you are who you say you are, whats a California lawyer doing complaining about what is posted on Chicago, R&R? I hear you have been run off all the California sites because all you do is whine and ask for gay sex! Even the fudgepackers in San Francisco won't have anything to do with you. Just do a Google!
Now shut the hell up or I'll OUT your ass! I have never done it before, but there is always a first time! And the next time you E-Mail me, I will forward a copy to the Managing Partner of your firm. No threat. Fact, twit!
(Right. Whatever you fucking pussy. You'll do that when you actually start posting politics in the political section... which will be NEVER!)
****See what I mean, twit? You are dense! You admit I'll NEVER post in the political section, yet you continue your tirade. Remember what I said about making the same mistake over and over? What results do you expect too change? You admit I won't do so but continue your whining. I suggest you find something too control, like your mental illness, because you don't control me nor Chicago R&R.
****"Right. Whatever you fucking pussy." Ooooooooh! I'm so insulted, a twit called me a pussy. That's funny! Now if a real man called me a pussy I might be insulted, but with you I just laugh. It is funny! And don't ever believe I won't do something I say I will. Just try me! Twit!

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MOST POSTS ON VIRTUALLY ALL CL POLITICS AND RANTS FORUMS ARE GIBSON’S VARIOUS MONIKERS “CROSS-POSTING”. GIBSON WILL FLOOD THESE FORUMS ALL DAY, EVERY DAY CARRYING ON BIZARRE DIALOGUE WITH HIMSELF/ALIASES.
THE BELOW POST REFERENCES GIBSON POSTING ON CL PHOENIX, WHERE GIBSON DELETES ALL POSTS BUT  HIS OWN, AND CROSS-POSTS AS “PONCHO” AND “DOC”

FILE: GIBSON IDENTIFIED phoenix

Posters on Phoenix CL are imposters (Poncho/Doc/???)
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Have been trying to read the posts of some of your posters (most are pretty boring and uneducated and make no sense at all).
Have discovered by paying attention to spelling, punctuation and wording that Poncho and Doc are they same and often post
as an unidentified/unnamed poster.....so, the one person make the argument then answers the argument and then RE:RE: the
argument...........a very onsided, moronic conversation.
Not one reasonable argument has come from this at all...just a bunch of childish trash boy talk.
Too bad.
Several National crisis' in progress and could be discussed with good sense and yet, here is an imposter
(he probably is "mental") that continuously sits and carries on ridiculous conversations with himself.
Too bad he hasn't discovered the Forum section of Craigslist.....he could talk to himself all day...at a faster pace.
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GIBSON CONTROLS CL SEATTLE POLITICS AND RANTS FORUM. A POSTER FIGURES OUT GIBSON’S GIG:

FILE: GIBSON IDENTIFIED seattle
re Like I said all along (Poncho here) (zoro)
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Yes, Poncho, some of us actually do have a life. Spent the day on the water with friends and relatives. Good times.
Poncho, I admit that for a while I entertained the possibility of your feminine side actually being a woman.
After reading your last post under your pseudonym Diana, in which you accused me of making threats, I no longer have any doubts that you and Diana are one and the same.
Poncho I've seen you use that same tactic numerous times in the past when you were having it handed to you. You make threats against someone, then accuse them of making the threats and threaten them with legal action.
You do, however, play the "I've been violated" act well.
Man up Poncho, your favorite TV hero, Zorro, would have never hidden behind a female persona. Be the man you have always longed to be Poncho. Put your fears behind you and stop hiding behind aliases and skirts.
We all know your post no matter who you claim to be.
Strange how your and Diana's post came one after the other.

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GIBSON AS “PONCHO” ON CL ALASKA:
people like stupid ugly poncho and others (America first)
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Poncho and others like him who go to other CL websites to stir up trouble and post their disgusting crap ae just that a great big pile of trash. If I were Wasilla folks I would run him out of your site. He has already been run out of other sites. People are sick and tired of him and his gross posts. In Phoenix he is the biggest joke in town. He has been called a lier and he post in diffrent names it is so dumb. Poncho stay in Phoenix or better yet go volunteer and do some good for folks. Your liberal no good for nothing speak is not working any more maybe you got some mileage at one time but not now old man. Fakeole dude.
As for Sarah you are number one in my book. you can't please everyone and now days it really hard with people losing the manners they were taught years ago. And now are now taught any manners and have no charater to speak of.
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anchorage craigslist > community > politics
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RE: Nice self portrait Poncho (AKTERRITORYMAN)
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Well Wasilla 411, seems you want to be me real bad. You must be a HOMOSEXUAL. 411 isn't very comfortable with himself so, he pretends to be me. You like my moniker so much keep it. I will use a new one. So, from now on I will no longer be AKTERRITORYMAN. There you go, now you can be me all you want.

Nice self portrait Poncho (AKTERRITORYMAN)
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We could be related, between us both I think we might have a full set of teeth...LOL

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THE BELOW POST IS ACTUALLY BY GIBSON:


FAG Poncho from Phoenix (907)
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Date: 2010-04-28, 7:43PM AKDT
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That Poncho fool is from Phoenix and was chased off CL's politics by the locals. He post in many names and even replys to himself. He is a real hater with no substance, a retard! FLAG ALL HIS POSTS!
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A POSTER ON CRAIGSLIST S.F. IS DUBIOUS OF GIBSON’S DENIALS OF FLAGGING AND INTERNET HARASSMENT:


A HONEST RESPONSE IN SAN FRANCISCO TO GIBSON’S ANTICS:

RE .Have you been contacted by the anti-Gibson stalker?

Reply to: see below
Date: 2007-12-14, 6:22AM PST
I have a question for Mr. Gibson. How do you post you legal services on LA graigslist three times a day? How many e-mails address do you have? If you are looking for public sympathy here, prove that you deserve it. After reading your so called stalkers posting and the fallowing responses I believe them. What's your side other than victim



35% Say It’s Still Possible for Anyone in America to Get Rich By Working Hard - Rasmussen Reports™

35% Say It’s Still Possible for Anyone in America to Get Rich By Working Hard - Rasmussen Reports™

IT TRULY IS!

IF YOU'RE A POLITICIAN, YOU CAN MAKE A VAST FORTUNE PUSHING DEALS WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES THAT PUT THE BIG BUCKS IN YOUR POCKET!

CASE EXAMPLE IS LA RAZA BARBARA BOXER of CALIFORNIA - ENDORSED BY THE MEXICAN FASCIST PARTY of LA RAZA.

BOXER NOW HAS A FORTUNE OF MILLIONS DESPITE HAVING NO MONEY WHEN SHE STARTED HER POLITICAL CAREER. BOXER SIPHONS OFF VAST AMOUNTS OF SPECIAL INTEREST BRIBES SHE HANDS OVER TO HER SON, OAKLAND LAWYER, DOUGLAS BOXER AS "CONSULTANT FEES". WHEN SOME IN THE SENATE ATTEMPTED TO END THIS BRAZEN CORRUPTION, FEINSTEIN AND BOXER, TWO OF THE MOST CORRUPT POLITICIANS IN AMERICA, VOTED HELL NO!



YOU CAN ALSO GET RICH IF YOU'RE A RUSSIAN CRIMINAL!

AS A COUNTRY WE HAVE OPEN AND UNDEFENDED BORDERS, AND LET FOREIGN NATIONS EXPORT THEIR DREGS, AND CRIMINALS!

JUST AS MEXICO'S BIGGEST EXPORT OTHER THAN DRUGS, ARE MEXICAN CRIMINALS, RUSSIA ALSO EXPORTS THEIR CRIMINALS WHO SEEM TO BE DOING QUITE WELL IN THIS COUNTRY!

DO AS SEARCH FOR CALIFORNIA RUSSIAN CRIMINAL OLEG KHERSONSKY. A "PAWNBROKER" THAT KEEPS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS CASH-ON-HAND!


http://olegkhersonsky.blogspot.com/2011/11/money-laundering-into-ca-hard-money.html

OCCUPY WALL STREET - 73% Think Most Bailout Money Went To Those Who Caused Economic Crisis - Rasmussen Reports™

73% Think Most Bailout Money Went To Those Who Caused Economic Crisis - Rasmussen Reports™

NO PRESIDENT IN HISTORY AS TAKEN IN AS MUCH MONEY FROM HIS CRIMINAL BANKSTER DONORS THAN BARACK OBAMA!

HE NO LONGER CLAIMS TO REPRESENT "CHANGE".... OBAMA IS BUSH'S THIRD TERM.

BEYOND HIS BANKSTERS, OBAMA ONLY REPRESENTS THE MEXICAN FACSIST PARTY of LA RAZA!

OBAMA CAN'T WIN A SECOND TERM WITHOUT THE VOTES OF ILLEGALS.... again!

LA RAZA! JOIN THE MEXICAN FASCIST PARTY of LA RAZA - EXPAND LA RAZA "THE RACE" SUPREMACY & MEXICAN WELFARE STATE!


JOIN THE MEXICAN FASCIST PARTY OF LA RAZA – EXPAND LA RAZA SUPREMACY, OUR GRINGO-PAID WELFARE STATE, JOBS TO ILLEGALS FIRST, AND CONTROL OF CONGRESS!
ONE-QUARTER OF CONGRESS IS NOW THE CONGRESSIONAL HISPANIC CAUCUS!
OUR MOTTO:
“For the Race, everything. For others, nothing!”
OUR PARTY IS FINANCED WITH GRINGO TAXES, AND GENEROUS CONTRIBUTIONS BY MOST OF THE FORTUNE 500 THAT KISS OUR ASS SO WE BREED MUCHO “CHEAP” LABOR FOR THEM TO EXPLOIT! BUT THEY WON’T BE EXPLOITING US LONG! WE ARE TAKING OVER BY HEAVY ANCHOR BABY BREEDING, VOTING AND VIOLENCE!
MEXIFORNIA IS OURS! WE HAVE IN CONGRESS LA RAZA SUPREMACIST, REPS. XAVIER BECERRA, JOE BACA, SISTERS LINDA AND LORETTA SANCHEZ! THEY WILL PUSH OUR AGENDA OF SUPREMACY, NO BORDERS, AMNESTY, DREAM ACTS, FREE OBAMAcare, AND JOBS TO LA RAZA FIRST!
WE NOW OPERATE OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE! WE HAVE OUR LA RAZA LEADERSHIP, CECILIA MUNOZ IN THE WHITE HOUSE PUSHING OUR AGENDA! WE HAVE LA RAZA HILDA SOLIS IN AS SEC. OF LA RAZA ILLEGAL LABOR!
WE TOLD OBAMA TO PUT LA RAZA BITCH, SONIA SOTOMAYER ON THE SUPREME COURT. SHE’S VOTED AGAINST E-VERIFY, AND REFERS TO US AS “UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS”.
WE HAVE OBAMA BY THE BALLS! HE KNOWS HE WON’T GET THE GRINGO VOTES AGAIN, SO HE HISPANDERS LIKE A PUTA, KISSSING OUR ASSES WHEN WE TELL HIM TO! HE’S ALREADY SUED FOUR AMERICAN STATES ON OUR BEHALF TO EXPAND OPEN BORDERS AND THE LA RAZA AGENDA! THAT ONLY LEAVES 46 MORE STATES!
HE LIED! OBAMA LIED IN FRONT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE – STATE of the UNION MESSAGE! HE DID WHAT LA RAZA CONSULATES AROUND THE COUNTRY DEMANDED AND MADE SURE LA RAZA GOT OBAMAcare BY MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO ASK US FOR IDENTIFICATION.
WE HAVE LA RAZA DEMS ALSO WORKING US INTO THE VOTING BOOTHS BY MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO ASK A VOTER FOR NON-FRAUDULENT I.D.
WE ELECTED LA RAZA JERRY BROWN IN MEXIFORNIA TO SABOTAGE ANY GRINGO AGENDA THAT WOULD THWART OUR EXPANSION. PUTO BROWN SIGNED A LAW MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO USE E-VERIFY! WE WILL BRING IN THE A.C.L.U. IF EMPLOYERS ATTEMPT TO HIRE GRINGO-LEGALS FIRST!

VIVA LA RAZA!

WE ARE WINNING! WE ARE BREEDING A MEXICAN OCCUPATION AND THE LOOTING IS GOOD!
ALREADY THE CA ATTORNEY GENERAL DECLARES THAT NEARLY HALF THE MURDERS IN CA ARE BY MEXICAN GANGS! THAT ONLY LEAVES THE OTHER HALF!
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WHY DO YOU THINK LA RAZA ENDORSES OBAMA, BOXER, FEINSTEIN, AND PELOSI??? The ever expanding Mex occupation!

MEXICANOCCUPATION.blogspot.com

LaRaza Calls For Boycott Against Free Speech

No surprise here. Pulling the race/hate card again and using political correctness La Raza goes after cable shows reporting on illegal immigration.

"MurguĂ­a said she recognized that ultimately the power to change the debate lies with the Hispanic community itself. “Latinos buy products from the advertisers supporting these programs,” she said. “Latinos vote in primaries and in the general election. We have a significant role to play picking winners and losers in both arenas. We need to make it clear to those who embrace hate that they do so at their own economic and political peril.”
http://www.nclr.org/content/news/detail/50375/
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FIFTEEN THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT LA RAZA “THE RACE” and the LA RAZA DEMS’ PUSH TO EXPAND MEX SUPREMACY TO  BUY THE ILLEGALS’ VOTES:

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Only in America could critics of a group called "The Race" be labeled racists. Such is the triumph of left-wing identity chauvinists, whose aggressive activists and supine abettors have succeeded in redefining all opposition as "hate."
Both Barack Obama and John McCain will speak this week in San Diego at the annual conference of the National Council of La Raza, the Latino organization whose name is Spanish for, yes, "The Race." Can you imagine Obama and McCain paying homage to a group of white people who called themselves that? No matter. The presidential candidates and the media have legitimized "The Race" as a mainstream ethnic lobbying group and marginalized its critics as intolerant bigots. The unvarnished truth is that the group is a radical ethnic nationalist outfit that abuses your tax dollars and milks PC politics to undermine our sovereignty.
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Here are 15 things you should know about "The Race":
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15. "The Race" supports driver's licenses for illegal aliens.
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14."The Race" demands in-state tuition discounts for illegal alien students that are not available to law-abiding U.S. citizens and law-abiding legal immigrants.
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13. "The Race" vehemently opposes cooperative immigration enforcement efforts between local, state and federal authorities.
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12. "The Race" opposes a secure fence on the southern border.
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11. "The Race" joined the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in a failed lawsuit attempt to prevent the feds from entering immigration information into a key national crime database -- and to prevent local police officers from accessing the data.
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10. "The Race" opposed the state of Oklahoma's tough immigration-enforcement-first laws, which cut off welfare to illegal aliens, put teeth in employer sanctions and strengthened local-federal cooperation and information sharing.
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9. "The Race" joined other open-borders, anti-assimilationists and sued to prevent Proposition 227, California's bilingual education reform ballot initiative, from becoming law.
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8. "The Race" bitterly protested common-sense voter ID provisions as an "absolute disgrace."
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7. "The Race" has consistently opposed post-9/11 national security measures at every turn.
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6. Former "Race" president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton's Hispanic outreach adviser, said this: "U.S. English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks." He was referring to U.S. English, the nation's oldest, largest citizens' action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States. "The Race" also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms "illegal" and "amnesty."
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5. "The Race" gives mainstream cover to a poisonous subset of ideological satellites, led by Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA). The late GOP Rep. Charlie Norwood rightly characterized the organization as "a radical racist group … one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West."
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4. "The Race" is currently leading a smear campaign against staunch immigration enforcement leaders and has called for TV and cable news networks to keep immigration enforcement proponents off the airwaves -- in addition to pushing for Fairness Doctrine policies to shut up their foes. The New York Times reported that current "Race" president Janet Murguia believes "hate speech" should "not be tolerated, even if such censorship were a violation of First Amendment rights."
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3. "The Race" sponsors militant ethnic nationalist charter schools subsidized by your public tax dollars (at least $8 million in federal education grants). The schools include Aztlan Academy in Tucson, Ariz., the Mexicayotl Academy in Nogales, Ariz., Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School in St. Paul, Minn., and La Academia Semillas del Pueblo in Los Angeles, whose principal inveighed: "We don't want to drink from a White water fountain, we have our own wells and our natural reservoirs and our way of collecting rain in our aqueducts. We don't need a White water fountain … ultimately the White way, the American way, the neo liberal, capitalist way of life will eventually lead to our own destruction."
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2. "The Race" has perfected the art of the PC shakedown at taxpayer expense, pushing relentlessly to lower home loan standards for Hispanic borrowers, reaping millions in federal "mortgage counseling" grants, seeking special multimillion-dollar earmarks and partnering with banks that do business with illegal aliens.
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1. "The Race" thrives on ethnic supremacy -- and the elite sheeple's unwillingness to call it what it is. As historian Victor Davis Hanson observes: "[The] organization's very nomenclature 'The National Council of La Raza' is hate speech to the core. Despite all the contortions of the group, Raza (as its Latin cognate suggests) reflects the meaning of 'race' in Spanish, not 'the people' -- and that's precisely why we don't hear of something like 'The National Council of the People,' which would not confer the buzz notion of ethnic, racial and tribal chauvinism."
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The fringe is the center. The center is the fringe. Viva La Raza.
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“Wherever there’s a Mexican, there is Mexico!”... President Calderone. As an American living under Spanish speaking Mexican occupation, I would add to this “Where there’s a Mexican, there’s a violent Mexican gang!”


JOBS - THEY KEEP GOING TO ILLEGALS! -Drop In Unemployment To 8.6% In November Is Good, But Not As Good As It Looks - Investors.com

Drop In Unemployment To 8.6% In November Is Good, But Not As Good As It Looks - Investors.com


THE LA RAZA GOVERNOR OF MEXIFORNIA JUST SIGNED INTO LAW A BILL MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO USE E-VERIFY! NO OUTRAGEOUS! AFTER ALL, HE WAS ELECTED BY ILLEGALS!


At the current rate, it will take until May 2016 just to regain the number of jobs we had in 2008 (see chart).

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Unemployment Decline To 8.6%: A Statistical Fluke?
Posted 12/02/2011 07:05 PM ET
Jobs: Americans woke up Friday to the good news that the unemployment rate had dropped sharply from 9% to 8.6%. On closer inspection, the decline is highly questionable — and doesn't warrant a surge in optimism.
The White House hailed the news as "further evidence that the economy is continuing to health" and proving the $447 billion stimulus proposal "is the right medicine" for what ails us. Some in the media likewise saw good news, with headlines such as the Boston Globe's "Unemployment Drops To Lowest Since 2009."
We're not trying to be Grinches, but the decline in the unemployment rate is highly suspect for many reasons.
The number is derived from a huge survey of 60,000 households the government takes each month. In November, the survey showed the labor force shrank by 315,000. That shrinkage makes the unemployment rate look a lot better than it is.
This is questionable because in the previous three months, the labor force increased by 323,000 workers on average. Statistically, a one-month reversal in the size of the workforce of more than 600,000 people just doesn't make sense — unless an awful lot of people threw up their hands in disgust and quit looking.
And that's what seems to be the case. The labor participation rate declined to 64% from 64.2% a month before. Usually, it rises when jobs are growing as people rejoin the labor force.
"Some of the decline relates to the aging of the U.S. population, but a substantial portion of the decline reflects the lack of well-paying jobs, and it (is) driving people from the labor force, discouraged," wrote economist Anthony Crescenzi of bond giant Pimco.
That is not good news.
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Looking at other data, both public and private, shows why that is true.
Take the number of net new jobs businesses create in a given month. For November, it was 120,000 — weak by any measure. Over time, we need to create 130,000 new jobs each month just to soak up new entrants into the workforce.
At the current rate, it will take until May 2016 just to regain the number of jobs we had in 2008 (see chart).
Weekly claims for unemployment benefits, another government measure, rose 6,000 to a seasonally adjusted 402,000 after remaining below 400,000 for three weeks in a row, the Labor Department said Thursday.
This is significant, since government and Wall Street economists say jobless claims must fall below 375,000 and stay there to make a real dent in unemployment.
And there are private measures of unemployment that still show deep distress across the country when it comes to jobs.
Take the Gallup "underemployment" survey, which the polling firm has been taking dutifully for decades. It shows underemployment — the share of workers without jobs plus the share working part time but wanting full-time work — hit 18.1% in November, up from 17.5% just two months ago and 17.2% a year earlier.
Our own IBD/TIPP Poll estimates that nearly 25% of all households have someone who's unemployed and looking for work — roughly 32 million Americans.
We're happy that 120,000 people found jobs in November. But this is no real jobs recovery.
We can do a lot better. Sadly, those in charge in the White House seem to think this is good enough.